the reid plan says we won't be in iraq and afghanistan. that's $1 trillion. we'll have a commission. that will save us $$1 billion. those aren't real. >>> the problem you have is ideological purity. when you sit here and look at the congressional budget office, made it clear that if the bush tax cuts were not extended, all of them, deficit goes down. if you extend all of them, $3.3 trillion increase over ten years. that's fact will we won't sit here and debate a fact. it is a fact. and so on democratic side, it is crazy to sit here and say we have no issue with medicare, medicaid. no issue with social security. you have rising costs. at some point you cannot have people on the democratic side and the republican side say absolutely not. i'm not giving up anything. you have to be able to give up something. >> the republicans were willing, at least until recently. you heard john boehner, the speaker of the house saying he was willing for $800 billion in tax revenue. increases in taxes in effect. that's not ideological purity. >> right. could he sell that to his